Season 2 Episode 4: Breaking the Structure
In this episode M Irene and Amy Bell discuss reapproaching various plotting structures, to include Save the Cat, the Hero’s Journey and Amy’s plotting process. M Irene discusses how adhering too rigidly to plotting structures hindered her writing, and how looking at these plotting processes in a new light helped her make them work.
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Episode Speakers & Guests

M Irene
M Irene was born and raised in Utah, where she currently lives with her husband, their son and their fun-loving German Shepherd. As an avid reader and aspiring fantasy and horror author, she is particularly fond of all things adventure and anything epic involving magic. In addition to writing, M Irene is the co-host of the podcast “How to Survive Until You’re Published,” a free writing resource. When she’s not working or writing, M Irene can be found biking in the mountains, playing dungeons and dragons with her husband and friends, watching horror movies, or traveling the world and collecting mugs.

Amy Bell
Amy Bell was born and raised in Utah, where she currently lives with her husband and 2 year old son. She is a system administrator by day and an aspiring writer by night. She’s been writing since she was in elementary school and could be found staring out the window during long road-trips, writing stories in her head. As an aspiring fantasy-romance author, she loves creating relatable characters that are changed and shaped through adventure, hardship and love. She hopes to create characters that inspire others and help them believe in the world around them and in themselves. When she’s not writing, Amy loves to go on epic adventures with her husband and son, play boardgames, go on long walks while listening to Harry Potter, and eat ice cream while snuggled up with a good book.
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